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11 Jan 2008 04:23 PM  
This forum is dedicated to the topics of raising pheasants for release on private land. It seems to be a topic we get alot of questions about.
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11 Jan 2008 04:25 PM  
We own 80 acre in Penna. We were told we could stock pheastant be cause they would not breed at that alatude[ 3000 ft]. If we cannot raise them what other kind of pheastant coud we stock . And let breed on there own???
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22 Mar 2008 03:51 AM  

Anyone have an answer to this question?  Why is breeding an issue at altitude?

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24 Mar 2008 03:39 AM  

From what I understand pheasant eggs need a certin level of oxegen saturation in order to hatch properly.  I know that when pheasant eggs are hatched in a incubator at high altitued they add oxegen to the incubator.    This is just a guess, but I would think that it's not that pheasants can't live at high altitudes, it's just that the eggs don't get enough oxegen to hatch properly.  Just my two cents. 

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25 Mar 2008 01:11 PM  

Do a lot of guys raise their own birds and just releae them on to their property? 

I have never raised birds from eggs, but a few years ago I purchased 200 Chuckar chicks with a frend and we raised them in a small flight pen.  It was a great way to get my young dog on a ton of birds and in my state chuckar are not native species so I was able to get a dog training permit for around $20 and take the birds to a friends farm. 

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30 Jul 2008 04:57 PM  

Is there any danger in releasing pen raised birds into native populations?  I thought I remember reading something about spreading diseases to these types of birds.  I don't raise birds for my land, but I do have relatives that do and (in a minimal way) I help them.

 

 

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31 Jul 2008 04:14 AM  
I've never heard anything about pen raised birds making the native birds sick. Most of the birds in Wisconsin are released as well as alot of birds in other states including SD.
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11 Oct 2008 01:04 AM  
Check out the Surrogator
http://www.quailrestoration.com/surrogator.html
watch there video
they have done 10 years of research, we set out two groups of day old chick, first group of 65 lost 4, second group I think it was five, released about 120 birds that will act like natural birds and stay in the area. it is said to feed and water for the 4 weeks (for Pheasants) we found they really went through the feed the last week,that needs to be watched.
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13 Oct 2008 11:16 PM  
Hey Len,

Welcome to the site. I've seen the commercials for the Surrogator on the Outdoor Channel a few times and it seems like it makes a lot of sense. I've raised a few birds for training and my mortality rate in the pen was much higher then that. How does it do with predators?
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14 Oct 2008 04:24 AM  
I the area where we placed the surrogator there is said to have a good population of coyotes, I can't tell you how the birds fared after release but about 15 min. after they were release there was no sign of them. I did try my hand at coyote hunting one day in the morning over their but could not call anything in, although there were signs that they were their,the next time I think I'll try late afternoon/evening. I am hoping to hunt the area after I get back from South Dakota, or hear a report from anyone in our group that had a chance to hunt there. For Western Washington hunters it is a 3-5 hour trip to get into the natural bird population and then the numbers for birds is low as well as quality public hunting areas.
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20 Oct 2008 03:30 AM  
Hopfully your lack of success coyote hunting wasn't because they were so well fed from eating birds

Where are you heading in South Dakota?
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21 Oct 2008 01:23 AM  
Na, it turned out to be a hot summer day, about two weeks before we let out the first batch of chicks, nothing was moving, we walked around the heavy brush and finally kicked up a couple of deer.
I am meeting friends south of Mitchell SD, in Parkston SD, good stories, lots of ribbing and a hell of a good time.
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23 Oct 2008 02:58 AM  

I forgot that I had photos of our first release and adding the second batch of chicks in the Surrogator enjoy
http://leonard.fotopic.net/c1540647_1.html
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23 Oct 2008 09:28 PM  

I'm wowed by the fact that they are actually flying out of the Surrogator. I didn't think they would be able to fly so well for some reason.

Does it work for other birds like ducks etc?

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24 Oct 2008 06:11 AM  
The Surrogator was designed for Quail and Pheasants,up to 65 Pheasants are released at 4 weeks and 125 Quail at 5 weeks. no ducks
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24 Oct 2008 01:24 PM  

Great stuff.  I've seen these things advertised on TV, but to see them working in real life is a great thing.

 

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24 Oct 2008 06:23 PM  
Pork, maybe you could put one in your back yard?
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06 Nov 2008 02:41 PM  
Not to be a downer on the surrogator....It is an excellant idea. But I believe that you can only run 3-4 cycles of chicks through them a year....that would be about 195 chicks a year. For the price of the surrogator ( around $1700 ) I can raise and release about 500 at seven weeks old for that price...They are much stronger at that age as well..And as far as the argument about imprinting at 10 days old. In our experience you don't have to worry about that as much as you might think. Just a thought. You may want to look at your local pheasant producer for your stocking needs. It may save you some time and money.
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07 Nov 2008 02:54 AM  
What do you mean by imprinting?
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07 Nov 2008 10:08 AM  
In Washington State the practice since the 1960's has been to release Pheasants at full maturity, these birds are coyote bait, after a few day after release there are no birds,and they have to plant the next weekend, believe me, not that many birds are harvested. We are a small group of people who are trying to enhance an area, we do not own the land and can not build a large pen and also daily monitor it.
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07 Nov 2008 01:47 PM  
Imprinting is a where the young birds "imprint" the area as a "map" or location in their brain somewhere around 10 days old. The theory is that if you raise them in your area during that period they are more apt to stay around.........And yes, for the most part, releasing adult pheasants usually means coyote bait. We release adults for our customers out here (central nebraska) to hunt and we see them weeks afterward. We know this because we release different varieties (melanistics and the like) and they come back near the house often or we end up seeing them on the mowed paths in the pasture. And we have a lot of coyotes and hawks. I am not suggesting you build a large pen and monitor it daily. You can simply go to your local pheasant producer and purchase the birds at seven weeks old. No monitering or building. Just purchasing and releasing. It works well for myself here....it may not work for everyone and their area.
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07 Nov 2008 05:02 PM  
I've heard a lot of the hunt clubs in South Dakota do this to "boost" the natural population. I've also heard the survival rate depends a lot on the cover.
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17 Mar 2009 01:47 AM  
I am currently raising pheasants on my property and I am planning on releasing them on to my friends property. He has Sixty acres of corn and fifteen acres of pear orchard that the birds nest in. The property also as a series of thick, overgrown ditches. The pheasant numbers have recently gone down on this property due to his mowing of the Orchard during early May. (chopped up chicks) My question is, at what age should I release my pheasant onto his property?
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20 Mar 2009 04:45 AM  
I am not an expert but I was involved in researching setting up and release Pheasant with the Surrogator
their information seemed to support every thing we did, here is a link to there research http://www.wildlifemanagementtechnologies.com/sparticle.html
others on this post have had success by releasing birds at seven week this sounds interesting to me also.
I have a question I am not a farmer, been around some but never got a chance to do that kind of work, but isn't there away you friend could mow his orchard a little later to allow the chicks more time to mature or talk to the state biologist for some different options, maybe ground cover?
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20 Mar 2009 07:10 PM  
okay thank you. I have talked to him about it before, and he has said that its not economical for him to mow later. I am not sure why. Planting on his property is sort of out of the question because he makes a living off the property, so what ever he does has to earn him some money, and he is semi cooperative by letting me and my hunting pals stock pheasants and plant winter oats along the ditches and leave them until summer for food and believe it or not they nest in it too. It just kills me because there is always plenty of winter cover and food, but no spring cover at all. I went out there this week and his land is just dirt with about two acres of mustard weed and the ditches left.
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20 Mar 2009 07:14 PM  
I went to the your suggested link, and do I need the Surrogator to release them at four and a half weeks?
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21 Mar 2009 04:58 AM  
If you read back to a post by cngamebirds he has release 7 week old birds with success, the surrogator worked for us
1) because we didn't own the land and
2) we were about 200 miles away and we had members taking turns checking the water and feed once a week we got 2 batches about 120 birds, the thing about th surrogator is after the initial cost it can be used year after year and portable enough to be move to different locations.
The cost per bird if I remember was $50 for 65 birds ,I'm not sure what 4 1/2 week old or 7 week old birds cost, we were just surprised to see that it work as well as it did except they really went through the food on the last week and we'll be checking that more closely this year.
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05 May 2009 06:24 PM  
Four and a half weeks can be done. They may be a little slower on the getaway from predators. Just out of the surrogator they have to learn to fly pretty fast, pretty quickly. There is no room to learn to fly in one of those things. Ours are flying in the brooder house at 8 days old and then in our very large flight pens at 3 weeks of age. It's also cheaper because you don't have as much feed into them yet at four and a half weeks. Purina Startena, which is what they eat all the way up to 6 weeks costs 14 dollars per 50 pound bag. Each chick will eat about 2 pounds by six weeks of age. It all ads up.
Our seven week old birds run 3.75 per bird, and you get the number you asked for. There is no "die off charge". Such as if you buy and raise them on your own, pay for 500 and 50 to 75 die during the brooding process. They are also weather and predator conditioned. (muzzeld rat terrier in the flight pen twice a week).
Again, not to be a downer on the surrogator. Just some things to consider before making the investment.
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06 May 2009 12:00 AM  

I have never heard that birds wouldn't breed at altitude.  what I have seen a pheasant rooster will breed anything that sits still long enough.  What more likely is the the issue is the eggs won't hatch at altitude.  Hatching eggs is very precise they eggs have to be turned regularly and humidity and temperature have to be correct.  But even with this it would reduce the success rate of hatching not eliminate it.

I speak with a gentleman in Greece a couple times a year and he rears pheasants above 3500 feet.  So it can be done.  

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06 May 2009 12:07 AM  

Cali,

The simliest answer is after the farmers last mowing.   It seems the birds prefer this are when your releasing them so any management should be done before the release.  Obviously since the farmer is trying to make some money on the property this is the delema?  I would think a 4-7 week old bird would be smart enough to get out of the mowers way.

This is the same problem we have in the midwest farmers want to mow hay fields in may so they can get 2 or 3 cuttings off the property but any nesting birds don't leave the nest until the first week in June,...so many nest get destroyed by the farmer just before they get ready to fledge. 

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